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Bronwyn Fryer's avatar

Thank you, thank you, thank you for this, dear Rob.

A lot of men have no understanding of the holding in Dobbs, and, like Alito, they invalidate everything else women have to say on the subject.

The fact remains that men can't get pregnant or give birth. Nor do they suffer from the daily curse of misogyny. And without that lived experience, they can't understand.

I have been in pretty severe depression since the Dobbs decision came down, and I know that millions of women like me feel the same. We're in flat despair for ourselves, our daughters, our sisters and all women. For me, this despair comes despite being on vacation and being on antidepressants. Things were bad enough with the political capture by the right wing, mass shootings and environmental destruction; for millions of women, the national situation now feels utterly catastrophic. This is indeed our 9/11.

The thing most men can't comprehend is that the Dobbs decision, written by misogynists, is literally a "body blow" to women. I'm 67 and came to sexual maturity not long after the Pill freed us from sexual slavery. All my life I've been handled, teased, hurt, dismissed, overlooked and objectified by men. I've had to fight for every position I've held and to get half the respect men do and less pay for the same work. So the Dobbs decision isn't just about the women losing the right to decide how to manage our bodies and their lives; it's about trying to keep from going under in the sucky, mucky, gucky river of misogyny.

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The Long Game's avatar

"The problem with claiming that what goes on inside somebody’s uterus is none of anyone else’s business is that it’s just not true, since what we want is for abortion to be legal — in a permanent, codified way, and that makes it the business of, well, everyone."

Hold up. Not legal. DECRIMINALIZED. Law is of rulers and is done by force, and is therefore immoral. Legalizations mean govt takes over the "industry" of the thing. They require hoop jumping for people to provide that service. Terminations actually arent' rocket science and anyone of average ability can learn to do them. Look up "menstrual extraction". Women learned to do it for each other in the 70s in large numbers.

Most of the world just has a midwife make a housecall and provide herbs or a physical termination, done deal, with BETTER outcomes than the Rockefeller-controlled western clinics have.

That said, perhaps we really should give life (or death!) sentences for terminations. After all, the men who impregnate women without consent know what they are doing. They are creating a dead child. That is murder. Sentence them, manditory minimum, 25 TO LIFE!

SENTENCE MEN.

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